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In normal speech, a mix of both types is used. Let's start with colloquial.
In normal speech, a mix of both types is used. Let's start with colloquial.


== Colloquial numbers ==
[[File: sorji (peh).mp3|thumb|none|colloquial: {{x|cit}}, {{x|nng}}, {{x|svaf}}, {{x|six}}, {{x|go}}, {{x|lak}}, {{x|chid}}, {{x|peq}}, {{x|kao}}, {{x|zap}}]]
[[File: sorji (peh).mp3|thumb|none|colloquial: {{x|cit}}, {{x|nng}}, {{x|svaf}}, {{x|six}}, {{x|go}}, {{x|lak}}, {{x|chid}}, {{x|peq}}, {{x|kao}}, {{x|zap}}]]


== To count "how many" ==
=== Cardinal numbers ===
To count "how many", "{{w|cardinal numbers}}" are used. Use the colloquial system (''cit'', ''nng'', ''svaf'') together with a [[lioxngsuu|classifier]] (the classifier will [[tone sandhi|change tone]] when spoken). For example:
To count "how many", "{{w|cardinal numbers}}" are used. Use the colloquial system (''cit'', ''nng'', ''svaf'') together with a [[lioxngsuu|classifier]] (the classifier will [[tone sandhi|change tone]] when spoken). For example:


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: one television, two cars, three air conditioners ...
: one television, two cars, three air conditioners ...


From 11, ''id'' and ''ji'' begin to be used instead of ''cit'' & ''nng''. For example:
From 11, ''{{x|id}}'' and ''{{x|ji}}'' begin to be used instead of ''cit'' & ''nng''. For example:


; {{tts|ji-zap-taai chiaf}}, {{tts|ji-zap-id-taai chiaf}}, {{tts|ji-zap-ji-taai chiaf}}, ...
; {{tts|ji-zap-taai chiaf}}, {{tts|ji-zap-id-taai chiaf}}, {{tts|ji-zap-ji-taai chiaf}}, ...
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; {{tx|cidban}}, {{tx|cidban-id}}, ..., {{tx|nngxban}}, ...  
; {{tx|cidban}}, {{tx|cidban-id}}, ..., {{tx|nngxban}}, ...  
: 10,000, 11,000, ..., 20,000
: 10,000, 11,000, ..., 20,000
== Table of literary and colloquial numbers ==
{{HokkienLiteraryColloquial-Num}}
[[File:sorji (buun).mp3|thumb|none|literary: {{x|id}}, {{x|ji}}, {{x|safm}}, {{x|sux}}, {{x|gvor}}, {{x|liok}}, {{x|chid}}, {{x|pad}}, {{x|kiuo}}, {{x|sip}}]]
== Other cases ==


=== Ordinal numbers ===
=== Ordinal numbers ===
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; {{x|texid}}, {{x|texji}}, {{x|texsvaf}}, {{x|texsix}}, {{x|texgo}}, ...
; {{x|texid}}, {{x|texji}}, {{x|texsvaf}}, {{x|texsix}}, {{x|texgo}}, ...
: first, second, third, ...
: first, second, third, ...
== Literary numbers ==
[[File:sorji (buun).mp3|thumb|none|literary: {{x|id}}, {{x|ji}}, {{x|safm}}, {{x|sux}}, {{x|gvor}}, {{x|liok}}, {{x|chid}}, {{x|pad}}, {{x|kiuo}}, {{x|sip}}]]
{{HokkienLiteraryColloquial-Num}}


=== Telephone digits ===
=== Telephone digits ===

Revision as of 01:58, 30 October 2019

Sorji (數字 Hokkien numerals; numbers in Taiwanese) come in two different sets:

  • colloquial (peh): used the most
  • literary (buun): mostly for telephone numbers and dates

In normal speech, a mix of both types is used. Let's start with colloquial.

Colloquial numbers

colloquial: cit, nng, svaf, six, go, lak, chid, peq, kao, zap

Cardinal numbers

To count "how many", "cardinal numbers" are used. Use the colloquial system (cit, nng, svaf) together with a classifier (the classifier will change tone when spoken). For example:

cidtaai tiexnsi 🔊, nngxtaai chiaf 🔊, svataai lefngkhix 🔊, ...
one television, two cars, three air conditioners ...

From 11, id and ji begin to be used instead of cit & nng. For example:

ji-zap-taai chiaf 🔊, ji-zap-id-taai chiaf 🔊, ji-zap-ji-taai chiaf 🔊, ...
20, 21, 22, ...

From 100, count the hundreds place with cit, nng, svaf... and from 101, the blank tens place is khoxng ( zero):

cidpaq 🔊-taai, cidpaq-khoxng-id 🔊-taai, cidpaq-khoxng-ji 🔊, ...
100, 101, 102, ...

There are shortcuts when the ones place is blank:

pah'id 🔊, cidpaq-zab'id 🔊, ..., pahji 🔊, cidpaq-jixzap'id 🔊
110, 111, ..., 120, 121

As we said, the next hundreds place is counted with nng.

nngxpaq 🔊, nngxpaq-id 🔊, nngxpaq-ji 🔊
200, 210, 220

Above 200, there's a shortcut using ar as a "weak form" of "hundred" (paq -> aq -> ar):

jixar-id, jixar-ji, ...
210, 220, ...
goxar-id, goxar-ji, ...
510, 520, ...

Thousands:

cidzhefng 🔊, zheng'id 🔊 / cidzheng'id 🔊, nngxchiefn 🔊
1,000, 1,100, 2,000

Ten thousand:

cidban 🔊, cidban-id 🔊, ..., nngxban 🔊, ...
10,000, 11,000, ..., 20,000

Ordinal numbers

For ordinal numbers, when the numerals are preceded by the prefix te:

texid, texji, texsvaf, texsix, texgo, ...
first, second, third, ...

Literary numbers

literary: id, ji, safm, sux, gvor, liok, chid, pad, kiuo, sip
1 2 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 / 9 / 10 /
Peh cit () nng () svaf six go lak chid pøeq kao zap
Buun id () ji () safm sux gvor liok pad kiuo sip

Telephone digits

telephone number: 3945068

Telephone digits are read using the literary system, with 0 read as khoxng. The digits are grouped according to certain rules and tone sandhi is applied. For example, 3945068 is read: 394, 50, 68 (samkiwsux, gvofkhoxng, liogpad; safm-kiuo-sux, gvor-khoxng, liok-pad; see Khax Tiexn'oe).

Date

The year is also read using the literary system. For example: 1998 is read: 19, 98-nii (itkiuo, kiwpatnii; see Jidkix Cidphvy).

References